A group statement on SCO's actions

[Bill Peeler]

something along this same line I've been thinking over the last while...

i think several of the UG ought to get together and host a
business-to-linux 'event' that would showcase all the standard business
software we can manage to get installed.  not necessarily server stuff,
although that could be included too.  then invite the business
community to come see stuff and get their questions answered concerning
linux.  maybe this ought to be done as part of one of the various yearly
business events that happen.  we could invite not only business people
but people from cities and towns and school districts.  my vision for
this is that it would be an event more for non-techies.

the hard part would be to keep all us tech types from scaring the
business types <g>

bill


On Wed, 21 May 2003 16:08:29 -0700
"Dan Wild" <dan-wild at pobox.com> wrote:

> 
> Greetings !
> 
> I recall that the group in Las Vegas, at one time or another, would
> have an'event' at one of the local bookstores.
> I think they had display computers set up for linux demos, and invited
> the general public.
> 
> So this type of thing could be arranged, and the media invited to
> observe the 'signing, the displays, etc.'
> Good for the public, good for linux, good for the LUG, good for the
> bookstore, etc.
> 
> Dan Wild
> Las Vegas, Nevada
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pluglist-admin at plug.org [mailto:pluglist-admin at plug.org]On
> Behalf Of Al Byers
> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 3:31 PM
> To: pluglist at plug.org
> Subject: Re: A group statement on SCO's actions
> 
> 
> I agree that if it is just a letter signed by a bunch of geeks, SCO
> could probably care less.  But if the letter is associated with an
> event that draws media coverage (how about a huge signing party), then
> it might start making a difference.
> 
> We should not take the approach that we cannot make a difference. SCO
> has endangered our livelihood. If they did it in a straightforward
> manner it would just be competition, but they refuse to openly state
> their claim and are attacking Linux by innuendo. If they identified
> what the offending parts of Linux are, then the community and industry
> could make an assessment as to whether or not their claim would hold
> up in court, but they haven't. If we work hard to get public opinion
> on our side, it could make a difference.
> 
> Also, SCO makes most of their money off of large franchisees and
> companies that have multiple copies of Unix. If we were to organize a
> PR campaign in relation to those companies, perhaps SCO would pay
> attention then.
> 
> -Al
> 
> Steve Roundy wrote:
> 
> >I agree.  I don't think SCO could care less about the few of us who
> >use Linux in Utah County.  Not that our feelings don't or shouldn't
> >matter but the truth is that they don't matter to SCO.  So our
> >statement would likely "fall on deaf ears".
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: pluglist-admin at plug.org [mailto:pluglist-admin at plug.org] On
> >Behalf Of Mitch Anderson
> >Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 2:46 PM
> >To: pluglist at plug.org
> >Subject: Re: A group statement on SCO's actions
> >
> >Personally, I don't really see the need for such a letter... I'm sure
> >SCO has seen the reactions from the community.  Its all over every
> >tech news feed I've seen.  Why continue what others have already
> >done?  The OSI Position Paper I think sums most anything anyone could
> >bring up. Regardless I don't think any of it is going to change SCO's
> >mind untill the court ruling.
> >
> >My .02
> >
> >Mitch
> >
> >
> >On Wed, 2003-05-21 at 08:37, Al Byers wrote:
> >
> >
> >>I floated a similar proposal to this in front of the PLUG list with
> >>
> >>
> >some
> >
> >
> >>positive response. I think the Linux users in the area need to unite
> >>
> >>
> >and
> >
> >
> >>make a statement about SCO's actions. With their agreement with
> >>Microsoft it makes them look legitimate and if there are not enough
> >>unified voices in opposition, it can only help their case. Utah
> >Linux>users should be the most vocal because we have the most to
> >lose. Like>all other Linux professionals, our access to Linux jobs
> >and general>interest in and enhancement of Linux will slacken if
> >corporations take>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >>SCO's bait and shy away from Linux. But more importantly, SCO's
> >>
> >>
> >actions
> >
> >
> >>shame us as a community. Linux is an effort by hardworking
> >programmers>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >>to be free from control by proprietary vendors. In this regard, we
> >are>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >>not unlike the pioneers who settled this region. In my opinion, SCO
> >is>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >>hijaacking this hard work with spurious claims. It is time for us to
> >>
> >>
> >act
> >
> >
> >>responsibly to send a message that we believe the SCO claims to be
> >>without merit and that this type of business activity does not
> >>
> >>
> >represent
> >
> >
> >>the ethics of the majority in Utah.
> >>
> >>I would like to see a representative from each LUG get together to
> >>
> >>
> >draft
> >
> >
> >>a unified statement that could be signed by members at the LUG
> >>
> >>
> >meetings.
> >
> >
> >>Then I think we should have an event, website, etc. that will be
> >>press-worthy.
> >>
> >>I could use some help in forwarding this to other Utah LUGs.
> >>
> >>-Al
> >>
> >>
> >
> >.===================================.
> >| This has been a P.L.U.G. mailing. |
> >|      Don't Fear the Penguin.      |
> >`==================================='
> >
> >.===================================.
> >| This has been a P.L.U.G. mailing. |
> >|      Don't Fear the Penguin.      |
> >`==================================='
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> --
> Al Byers
> Automation Groups Inc
> 777 S. State St.
> Orem, UT 84058
> 801.400.5111
> http://www.automationgroups.com
> byersa at automationgroups.com
> 
> We're "Open for Business" (http://www.ofbiz.org)
>  - the leader in Java-based Web services development tools
> 
> 
> .===================================.
> | This has been a P.L.U.G. mailing. |
> |      Don't Fear the Penguin.      |
> `==================================='
> 
> 
> .===================================.
> | This has been a P.L.U.G. mailing. |
> |      Don't Fear the Penguin.      |
> `==================================='
>